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		<title>By: SUSAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SUSAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Banned for being Christian? &#124; Check Your HUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banned for being Christian? &#124; Check Your HUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] style of suspension going on at Microsoft has reached a ridiculous level. I&#8217;ve already discussed at length the discriminatory behavior going on in terms of gamertags and profile content on Xbox [...]</description>
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		<title>By: awc</title>
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		<dc:creator>awc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He's more than missed the point. Try reading the thread of discussion before contributing. I am gay I don't hide it but neither do I camp it up. In life most people assume I'm straight until they meet my partner at which point they have ALL been accepting.   If I choose to use the word gay in my tag then I should be allowed without fear of comeback. Gay, straight, heterosexual these are just defining words. As for the 8yr old's mother, shame on you for letting your son play halo 3 maybe some parenting skill lessons are in order. Putting the gay issue to one side why does xbox allow racial abuse to be used in gaming? Is there any comeback on these individuals who continually use foul language?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s more than missed the point. Try reading the thread of discussion before contributing. I am gay I don&#8217;t hide it but neither do I camp it up. In life most people assume I&#8217;m straight until they meet my partner at which point they have ALL been accepting.   If I choose to use the word gay in my tag then I should be allowed without fear of comeback. Gay, straight, heterosexual these are just defining words. As for the 8yr old&#8217;s mother, shame on you for letting your son play halo 3 maybe some parenting skill lessons are in order. Putting the gay issue to one side why does xbox allow racial abuse to be used in gaming? Is there any comeback on these individuals who continually use foul language?</p>
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		<title>By: Why Should Gay Gamers Trust Microsoft? &#124; Check Your HUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Should Gay Gamers Trust Microsoft? &#124; Check Your HUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] member who states their sexual orientation in their gamertag or profile will be suspended. As I stated before, this policy alienates gay users and helps promote an intolerant environment on Xbox Live. Gay [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] member who states their sexual orientation in their gamertag or profile will be suspended. As I stated before, this policy alienates gay users and helps promote an intolerant environment on Xbox Live. Gay [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kurz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kurz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you're missing the point a little bit here. No one's suggesting that gay / bi gamers should have special rights and / or privileges, only that they should have an opportunity to be a part of the community without being forced to hide who they are. Straight people don't have to identify as "straight" because straight is the most common sexual orientation. That standard presents a challenge to those who identify as anything other than straight. 

Should "cockluver51" be an acceptable gamertag? No, absolutely not. It's an offensive term. A gamertag along the lines of "gayNproud" on the other hand, should absolutely be acceptable. It's not offensive in any way, and it gives the gamer in question the opportunity to show others who he is. Yes, it's in violation of the policy, but in this case, the policy is discriminatory. As I said before, straight people don't have to identify as straight - it's the "default" sexual orientation. Therefore, this policy only has a negative impact on gay / bi gamers. 

Oh, and if you want to talk about "thick skin" I'd suggest actually reading this article before you try and make that argument - specifically the part that says "I don’t need your help hiding who I am for my own good. Nothing that could happen to me on Xbox Live could possibly compare to the things that happened to me while openly dating a girl in a small town. So please, if you’re going to create policies that alienate me and other GLBT players, don’t hide behind the excuse that most uses of the word “gay” are negative and you’re protecting us. I’m mature enough to understand the result of being open about who I am and I don’t need your brand of help." The whole point of this article is that the GLBT community should be allowed to be who they are openly - that they should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not they want to face the slings and arrows associated with being openly gay on XBL. XBL is a community, much like a social networking site. People want to express themselves in that community, and frankly, they should be able to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you&#8217;re missing the point a little bit here. No one&#8217;s suggesting that gay / bi gamers should have special rights and / or privileges, only that they should have an opportunity to be a part of the community without being forced to hide who they are. Straight people don&#8217;t have to identify as &#8220;straight&#8221; because straight is the most common sexual orientation. That standard presents a challenge to those who identify as anything other than straight. </p>
<p>Should &#8220;cockluver51&#8243; be an acceptable gamertag? No, absolutely not. It&#8217;s an offensive term. A gamertag along the lines of &#8220;gayNproud&#8221; on the other hand, should absolutely be acceptable. It&#8217;s not offensive in any way, and it gives the gamer in question the opportunity to show others who he is. Yes, it&#8217;s in violation of the policy, but in this case, the policy is discriminatory. As I said before, straight people don&#8217;t have to identify as straight - it&#8217;s the &#8220;default&#8221; sexual orientation. Therefore, this policy only has a negative impact on gay / bi gamers. </p>
<p>Oh, and if you want to talk about &#8220;thick skin&#8221; I&#8217;d suggest actually reading this article before you try and make that argument - specifically the part that says &#8220;I don’t need your help hiding who I am for my own good. Nothing that could happen to me on Xbox Live could possibly compare to the things that happened to me while openly dating a girl in a small town. So please, if you’re going to create policies that alienate me and other GLBT players, don’t hide behind the excuse that most uses of the word “gay” are negative and you’re protecting us. I’m mature enough to understand the result of being open about who I am and I don’t need your brand of help.&#8221; The whole point of this article is that the GLBT community should be allowed to be who they are openly - that they should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not they want to face the slings and arrows associated with being openly gay on XBL. XBL is a community, much like a social networking site. People want to express themselves in that community, and frankly, they should be able to.</p>
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		<title>By: GuitarBizarre</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuitarBizarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And before you call me out on the generalization in the initial paragraph, I'm stating that from personal experience and I have no issue with it personally. Its human nature to look for any way to leverage an advantage somehow, and in todays climate, gay people have a number of positions they can take as regards leveraging their sexual orientation to their own benefit politically. The same thing happens with black people, immigrants, religions etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And before you call me out on the generalization in the initial paragraph, I&#8217;m stating that from personal experience and I have no issue with it personally. Its human nature to look for any way to leverage an advantage somehow, and in todays climate, gay people have a number of positions they can take as regards leveraging their sexual orientation to their own benefit politically. The same thing happens with black people, immigrants, religions etc.</p>
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		<title>By: GuitarBizarre</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuitarBizarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire issue is just pandering to a vocal minority who in reality should just grow some thicker skin. Everybody who knows more than a couple of people with 'alternative' orientations sexually, also probably knows at least 1 or 2 people who take every opportunity to play that card for attention or sympathy or whatever.

Its pathetic that these groups think they can disobey clearly stated rules that apply to EVERYONE and then act as if its discriminatory for the sake of it. Theres no rule saying gay gamers can't use xbox live. Theres no rule saying straight gamers are the only ones allowed. There IS a rule that states gay gamers can't name themselves 'cockluver87' and that straight gamers can't name themselves 'fagbasher29'. 

You disobey the rule, you leave the decision in the hands of microsoft who are fully within their rights to either play lenient or kick you with the letter of the law.

If anything, this is more a reminder to me that reading the terms and conditions is ALWAYS worth doing. Perhaps if everyone did that we'd live in a less oppressive and segregated society because people wouldn't be crying discrimination when its not needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire issue is just pandering to a vocal minority who in reality should just grow some thicker skin. Everybody who knows more than a couple of people with &#8216;alternative&#8217; orientations sexually, also probably knows at least 1 or 2 people who take every opportunity to play that card for attention or sympathy or whatever.</p>
<p>Its pathetic that these groups think they can disobey clearly stated rules that apply to EVERYONE and then act as if its discriminatory for the sake of it. Theres no rule saying gay gamers can&#8217;t use xbox live. Theres no rule saying straight gamers are the only ones allowed. There IS a rule that states gay gamers can&#8217;t name themselves &#8216;cockluver87&#8242; and that straight gamers can&#8217;t name themselves &#8216;fagbasher29&#8242;. </p>
<p>You disobey the rule, you leave the decision in the hands of microsoft who are fully within their rights to either play lenient or kick you with the letter of the law.</p>
<p>If anything, this is more a reminder to me that reading the terms and conditions is ALWAYS worth doing. Perhaps if everyone did that we&#8217;d live in a less oppressive and segregated society because people wouldn&#8217;t be crying discrimination when its not needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the group thing is a really great idea, but I can see the arguments coming in "but then we'd have to let religious groups and hatemongers of every variety have a group."  Unfortunately this subject always falls back into whether or not these are things people can choose...an argument I won't start right now.  But that's where people typically lump the GLBT communities.  It's unfortunate, but I thinks that's how the discussion would go.  They don't want to take sides(even though they have) on a controversial issue.  Microsoft doesn't want to "approve" because even though it wont hurt anyone, the majority on the outside will cry and moan as if someone crawled out of their xbox and beat them til their values changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the group thing is a really great idea, but I can see the arguments coming in &#8220;but then we&#8217;d have to let religious groups and hatemongers of every variety have a group.&#8221;  Unfortunately this subject always falls back into whether or not these are things people can choose&#8230;an argument I won&#8217;t start right now.  But that&#8217;s where people typically lump the GLBT communities.  It&#8217;s unfortunate, but I thinks that&#8217;s how the discussion would go.  They don&#8217;t want to take sides(even though they have) on a controversial issue.  Microsoft doesn&#8217;t want to &#8220;approve&#8221; because even though it wont hurt anyone, the majority on the outside will cry and moan as if someone crawled out of their xbox and beat them til their values changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni Chasteen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni Chasteen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that unfortunately companies will always hesitate to take steps to take a supportive and proactive stance on this issue, especially in the case of something like Xbox Live, because I'm sure Microsoft knows that their core demographic is straight males... if it came down to users not wanting to participate in Xbox Live over this issue, then they'd be sure to protect the interests of the majority. However, I think that if Microsoft takes my advice and creates a gay friendly group similar to Gamerchix. then it wouldn't matter as much to gay users if that this gamertag/profile policy exists. While ideally I'd like to see this policy changed as well as a group for gay gamers, I'd accept it as a fair compromise if they only started a group.

And yeah, I didn't even want to address the "think of the children" argument because it's always a lame excuse. I'm sick of parents demanding that the rest of the world censor itself and protect everyone's kids from what they feel are dangerous concepts. If you don't want your kid to know that someone they're playing with is gay then maybe you shouldn't let them play online with other people, or for that matter watch TV, listen to music or go outside because that's the only way to guarantee that they won't experience anything you don't want them to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that unfortunately companies will always hesitate to take steps to take a supportive and proactive stance on this issue, especially in the case of something like Xbox Live, because I&#8217;m sure Microsoft knows that their core demographic is straight males&#8230; if it came down to users not wanting to participate in Xbox Live over this issue, then they&#8217;d be sure to protect the interests of the majority. However, I think that if Microsoft takes my advice and creates a gay friendly group similar to Gamerchix. then it wouldn&#8217;t matter as much to gay users if that this gamertag/profile policy exists. While ideally I&#8217;d like to see this policy changed as well as a group for gay gamers, I&#8217;d accept it as a fair compromise if they only started a group.</p>
<p>And yeah, I didn&#8217;t even want to address the &#8220;think of the children&#8221; argument because it&#8217;s always a lame excuse. I&#8217;m sick of parents demanding that the rest of the world censor itself and protect everyone&#8217;s kids from what they feel are dangerous concepts. If you don&#8217;t want your kid to know that someone they&#8217;re playing with is gay then maybe you shouldn&#8217;t let them play online with other people, or for that matter watch TV, listen to music or go outside because that&#8217;s the only way to guarantee that they won&#8217;t experience anything you don&#8217;t want them to.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft isn't looking to protect the users that fall into the minority of any group.  They're looking to protect the fragile minds of the majority that fear the taint of anything unfamiliar to their lives...because that's a much larger group that might attack Microsoft, if displeased.

Regarding this story I've heard the argument that parents don't want their children exposed to gay people so it was a "good call" for Microsoft.  Really?  Why must we cater to parents that are trying to raise their children in bubbles? And yet these same parents allow them to chat in game with strangers? Almost every time I put on my headset someone mentions getting stoned or some sort of substance abuse, but that's ok.  Oh man, but if someone says they're gay(or straight??), they're banned.   Can't have them exposing who they are to unsupervised kids or "moral" zealots.

I think if people want the privilege to  reach out to people all over world, connect, and game...they need to step outside their precious microcosm and realize that we are different. If they don't like it they shouldn't cry wolf like they're a victim.  If individuals started owning their values and acting responsibly with them, companies might not feel like these policies must exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft isn&#8217;t looking to protect the users that fall into the minority of any group.  They&#8217;re looking to protect the fragile minds of the majority that fear the taint of anything unfamiliar to their lives&#8230;because that&#8217;s a much larger group that might attack Microsoft, if displeased.</p>
<p>Regarding this story I&#8217;ve heard the argument that parents don&#8217;t want their children exposed to gay people so it was a &#8220;good call&#8221; for Microsoft.  Really?  Why must we cater to parents that are trying to raise their children in bubbles? And yet these same parents allow them to chat in game with strangers? Almost every time I put on my headset someone mentions getting stoned or some sort of substance abuse, but that&#8217;s ok.  Oh man, but if someone says they&#8217;re gay(or straight??), they&#8217;re banned.   Can&#8217;t have them exposing who they are to unsupervised kids or &#8220;moral&#8221; zealots.</p>
<p>I think if people want the privilege to  reach out to people all over world, connect, and game&#8230;they need to step outside their precious microcosm and realize that we are different. If they don&#8217;t like it they shouldn&#8217;t cry wolf like they&#8217;re a victim.  If individuals started owning their values and acting responsibly with them, companies might not feel like these policies must exist.</p>
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